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EP79 The AI Divorce Toolkit: Smart Tech to Rebuild after Heartbreak

• Sarah Elizabeth • Episode 79

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"Who knew AI could be your divorce recovery bestie?"

In this episode of The Divorce Chapter, we’re going all in on a topic you probably never expected…. how AI can actually help you survive and THRIVE after divorce. Yep, AI isn’t just for tech nerds and sci-fi fans….it’s got tools that can help with everything from emotional healing and co-parenting to dating and rebuilding your future.

💔 AI for Emotional Recovery

📅 AI for Organising Your Life

💼 AI for Career & Business 

💰 AI for Finances & Budgeting 

👶 AI for Co-Parenting & Legal Assistance

💌 AI for Dating

🎭 AI for Protecting Yourself 

  • Brenda & Frank Conversation Analysis (Search in ChatGPT) 
  • Replika (Website) 
  • PimEyes (Website) 
  • Google Reverse Image Search (Website) 
  • MySudo (Website) 

💡 Which AI tool are you most intrigued to try?  Send a text to let me know 🩷

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

AI support, co-parenting apps, legal logistics, financial planning, emotional intelligence, conversation analysis, gaslighting detection, co-parenting conflict, legal documentation, budgeting apps, infidelity investigation, AI therapy, meditation apps, career planning, dating assistance

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Sarah Elizabeth


Sarah Elizabeth  00:01

Hello and welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the divorce chapter podcast with me, Sarah Elizabeth, and this week, we're going to look at what is perhaps a bit of an overlooked potential cheerleader to add to your support squad through divorce, and that is how we can use tech and AI as an extra ally. Yes, I know. I know divorce is already a roller coaster. We don't need to be adding a freaking confusing tech revolution on top of it. But, but here we are in a world where AI is doing all sorts of shit. It's writing essays, it's sorting out our Netflix binges. It's probably even plotting world domination. Who knows? But before the robots finally takeover, let's talk about how AI and tech might actually be able to help you navigate the divorce shitshow. Now AI won't serve your ex the papers. Well, someone really should invent that, but it can help with co parenting, legal logistics, financial planning, even if you're feeling brave dating again, I know right, who knew who freaking knew. So today, we're going to look at how AI can be your unexpected divorce recovery sidekick. So whether you need help decoding a passive aggressive text, organising paperwork, or just figuring out what your post divorce life is going to look like. There's an AI tool for that shit, but quickly, before we start, I am just going to start with a word of caution, because at the moment, at least AI might well be artificial, super, bloody intelligent, but it does not have emotional intelligence. So everything I'm going to talk about today does come with a side note of, just be mindful. It can't do bloody everything. Love. It can do a lot, though. So by the end of this episode, you're going to have a solid list of AI powered solutions that can make your divorce easier, smarter, and maybe even a bit empowering and all so grab a notebook and pen, or actually, as we're going all tech savvy, open a note on your phone to get these beauties down. I will try and add as many as I can into the show notes as well. Okay, let's go. 


Sarah Elizabeth  02:51

So first up, let's talk something too many of us have faced, which is dealing with a difficult ex aka fucking dickhead. Now, if dealing with your ex feels like a full time job without the pay or benefits, AI might just be your new best mate. We're talking conversation analysis. Have you ever read a message from the ex and thought, are they being nice, or is this a trap, or they're trying to bamboozle you, gaslighting 101 style? Did you know that AI can actually help analyse the tone and spot emotional manipulation. Yes, it can. So this was actually kind of what gave me the idea for this episode. I then did end up going down a whole AI rabbit hole, but this bit was what gave me the idea. So many of you will have heard of chat GPT. GPT, which apparently stands for generalized, pre trained transformer. But I found out a while back about a branch of chat GPT called Brenda and frank conversation analysis. Now, even if you have already downloaded chat GPT, you will need to Google or search specifically Brenda and frank conversation analysis, which will then take you into your chat GPT. But it's like a kind of separate branch of the main platform, so like a tab off a tab, if you like, but once you get in, oh, it's so fucking good. I wish. I wish I had had this, not only during my own divorce, but also in the bullshit situationship with the narc that followed. Holy shit is all I can say. Basically, you give them a slight bit of background, like who's who and shit, and then copy and paste their message in. Now I wanted to try and give you a bit of an example, so I created a fictitious message from a fictitious wanker, the sort that's typical from these idiots in a divorce shitshow. So let's say this prick cheated, because those are the types who tend to write this type of bullshit. 


Sarah Elizabeth  05:36

So my fake message from my fake ex says, I honestly don't know what's wrong with you. Lately, I've tried to be patient, but you're making things impossible. The kids are starting to notice, and I hate that they have to see you like this. I've done nothing but try to keep things peaceful, but you keep twisting everything and making me out to be the bad guy. Maybe take a step back and think about how your actions are affecting everyone. If you keep this up, I might have to make some difficult decisions, and I really don't want to go down that road, but I will if I have to, and it's exactly this kind of message that is designed almost to make the recipient spiral like second guess yourself feel defensive, generally, fucking panic about potential consequences, right? I mean, I was raging off my fake text. What can I say? But anyway, so I put that exact same message from a fake ex into Brenda and Frank, and I told them, for context, I said that this message is from my ex who emotionally abused me and cheated on me with his work colleague. He has been inconsistent in seeing the kids paying for the kids, and generally with the lawyers in the divorce as well. I keep trying to put in boundaries, but he sends me this, and it's just wearing me down. Am I being paranoid? Is he right? Okay, that's the message I sent and the backgrounds I gave. Word for freaking word what I got back. Are you ready? Okay? 


Sarah Elizabeth  07:24

Brenda said, Oh, this is textbook manipulation, and I need you to hear me loud and clear, I will. Brenda, you are not paranoid. This man is using classic abuser tactics to wear you down, make you doubt yourself and keep you tangled in his web. Let's break it down first, that opening line, I honestly don't know what's wrong with you lately. Translation, you are the problem. This is a direct attempt to undermine your confidence and reality. You're standing up for yourself and instead of acknowledging his own failures as a co parent and ex partner. He's making it seem like you're acting irrationally. Then we have I've tried to be patient, but you're making things impossible. Translation, I'm the reasonable one and you're the irrational one. This is gaslighting. He's making it sound like he's being calm and fair when, in reality, he has been inconsistent, unreliable and neglectful. You setting boundaries feels impossible to him because he doesn't want to be held accountable. The kids are starting to notice, and I hate that they have to see you like this. This is a huge red flag. He's weaponizing the children against you, trying to make you feel like your emotional response to his abuse is damaging them. But let's be clear, he is the one causing instability. If the kids are noticing anything, it's that their father is unreliable and inconsistent. He's trying to plant the idea that you're the unstable one, which is emotional abuse in itself. I've done nothing but try to keep things peaceful, but you keep twisting everything and making me out to be the bad guy, classic Darvo, deny attack, reverse victim and offender. He's flipping the script, making himself the victim and painting you as the aggressor, never mind the fact that he cheated, emotionally abused you and is failing to step up for his own kids. He wants you to feel like the villain for reacting to his own destructive behavior. Maybe take a step back and think about how your actions are affecting everyone. Translation, stop enforcing boundaries because they inconvenience me. This is another attempt at shifting blame. He is the one failing as a parent and a co parent, yet he's making it sound like you're the one hurting everyone. And the grand finale, I love Brenda. If you keep this up, I might have to make some difficult decisions, and I really don't want to go down that road. But. Will, if I have to this is a veiled threat. He's implying some kind of consequence, maybe legal action, maybe withholding money, maybe trying for more custody if you don't comply. The fact that he's being vague is deliberate. He wants you to spiral panic and back down. It's intimidation, pure and simple, that was just fucking Brenda 


Sarah Elizabeth  10:24

Frank. Then says, Brenda nailed it. This is textbook coercive control wrapped up in a guilt trip. He's not just being manipulative. He's actively trying to erode your sense of reality so that you doubt your own judgment and give him what he wants. Let's look at the overall pattern here, inconsistency with money, with time, with the lawyers. This keeps you off balance and exhausted. Guilt tripping, using the kids as leverage to make you feel like the bad guy, gaslighting, rewriting history to make it seem like he's the reasonable one, and you're overreacting veiled threats keeping you in a state of anxiety about what he might do. This is not a man who wants peace. This is a man who wants control and is furious that you're resisting. You are not being paranoid. You are being systematically manipulated. Your exhaustion is a sign that his tactics are working on some level, and that's exactly what he wants to wear you down until you give up. Here's the bottom line, you do not owe him an explanation for enforcing boundaries. You do not have to engage in this cycle of manipulation, if possible. Limit communication to written form email or co parenting app so that you have a record keep firm on boundaries and do not let his threat scare you into compliance. This isn't about what's wrong with you. This is about him scrambling to regain control because you're finally standing up to him and that that's exactly what you should keep doing cheers, Frank, how freaking good is that from a fake fucking message, a short fake message, and Brenda and Frank just pulled it apart and got it spot on. And that's what we need, right? Because, you know, when we're worn down, we're exhausted, the gas lighting starting to work, and you get a message like that. So how bloody amazing is it to get some extra support and validation too, as well, right? If this had been real, and I was genuinely starting to think it was me to get that kind of holy fuck is not me back. It's just brilliant. 


Sarah Elizabeth  12:48

So I asked Brenda and Frank then to help me write a response to my fake ex. They didn't know he was fake obvs and this, again, word for word is what I got back. Brenda said, Absolutely. But before we craft the response, I want to remind you of something very important. You do not need to engage with him on his terms. He's baiting you, trying to get a reaction so he can twist things further. If responding is necessary, we are keeping it short, factual and emotionless. No defending, no explaining, no justifying. Here is a solid response that keeps your boundaries firm and denies him the emotional reaction he wants. This conversation needs to remain focused on the children. If you have concerns about co parenting logistics, you are welcome to communicate them respectfully and through the appropriate channels. I will not engage with personal attacks, accusations or threats. If you are struggling with your commitments regarding the children, I suggest you reflect on that rather than blaming me, I will continue to make decisions that prioritize their wellbeing. If you have anything constructive to discuss, let me know otherwise. I will not be responding to further messages like this. Boom. Frank then adds this response accomplishes three key things. It. Number one, removes emotional engagement. He wants to pull you into a fight. This gives him nothing to work with. Two, it redirects to facts. He is failing in his responsibility, and you are not going to let him manipulate you into owning his failures. Three, it sets boundaries clearly. Any more messages like this straight to the trash if you want to tighten it even more, especially if you are dealing with a high conflict ex who thrives on drama, you can go even shorter. I will not engage with personal attacks. If you have something relevant to discuss about the children, keep it respectful and constructive. The end full stop, no explanation, no defense, just pure boundary enforcement. Every extra work. Is a door for him to manipulate. Keep it cold, keep it direct, and then do not engage further if he escalates. Document it. Move on. Move on. Indeed. Thank you, Frank and Brenda. Now if that is not a bloody amazing cheerleader to have on your side in a divorce shitshow. I don't know what is so that my love is Brenda and frank conversation analysis 100% worth the look if you're dealing with a prick. I mean, I could have just stopped the episode right there with just download chat GPT and Brenda and Frank. But like I said, I went in deep on the research and found so much shit to share. So now you're going to get it all in all. 


Sarah Elizabeth  15:51

So I also believe there is another AI powered conversation analysis tool called replika with a K, which is an AI chat bot that can analyse conversations and again, flag gas lighting or manipulative language patterns. And this all helps when you're dealing with a really difficult bastard, right? Because AI helps you to keep it brief but firm, and it rewrites the messages and text just like Brenda and Frank did to help you stay calm and neutral and, more importantly, legally safe, so that there's absolutely zero need to waste energy trying to get a perfect message. And also this shit can help for legal purposes, because if your divorce is high, conflict documentation is your ultimate bestie. And if co parenting is also an issue, which I'm going to come on to, some of the co parenting apps are also brilliant for storing and time stamping messages in case you need to evidence them in the future. Actually, while we're talking co parenting, let's just come on to that one now, because, you know, co parenting Bubba's who were supposedly created through an act of love, shouldn't feel like a poxy war, shouldn't it? But here we are so co parenting, we can use apps like our family wizard and 2 houses, the number 2 houses, which are both AI driven like co parenting calendars that prevent scheduling conflicts for start. So no more of this. I didn't know it was my weekend bullshit. I've personally heard a lot more about our family wizard than 2 houses, but both have similar kind of features. So what I found was they've got a shared calendar for scheduling parenting time, activities and appointments. They've got expense tracking and reimbursement request features for financial transparency, and they have secure messaging and document storage for clear communication. So exactly like I said about those, timestamping and documenting the messages and another one for co parenting and dispute resolution, because AI tools can analyse some of the common co parenting conflicts and suggest their solutions, like an online mediator. So I'm told that the app co parently, and also the app talking parents are both AI tools that document and analyze communication, so it's worth checking them out as well legally Nik, who was on the podcast last year, is also well worth follow on Instagram if you need extra co parenting advice with a legal spin. She also did a post some time back now about co parenting apps, and she keeps an eye on that, so definitely she's worth a follow. 


Sarah Elizabeth  19:04

Now, what about managing legal and financial logistics more generally? Because, you know, paperwork shouldn't be this goddamn hard, should it, and because legal documents are basically written in another language, AI can seemingly translate them into normal human speech like us, mere mortals can understand But, and this does come with a massive but you do have to exercise caution, Because whilst AI can give you assistance in streamlining tasks and decoding shit. It's still absolutely crucial to involve qualified legal professionals when you're handling divorce proceedings in the UK, at least because they can give you the personalized advice and make sure. All the legal requirements are actually met. And, you know, help navigate the huge complexities of private law and family law. And of course, I will always around this give a shout out to separate space who are most definitely not AI, but have the most amazing platform online to guide you through the legal pathway. Have a listen back to Episode 61 with the beauts Amanda bell for that one, because it really is a brilliant platform with all the templates and all the shit you need for the legal stuff. If you do want to have a look at a tech option. In the UK, there's a service called amicable, which offers a platform to help couples navigate divorce amicably. Clues in the name amicable. I mean, mine wasn't, but you know, and it's not solely AI driven but amicable does apparently utilize technology to assist in supporting air quotes their agreements. But again, even though you emphasise that importance, the huge importance of professional oversight, exactly because AI alone might just not catch all the legal nuances that are needed for legally binding agreements. So just be mindful for legal shit like you don't want to end up having higher legal costs or financial harm or whatever, especially if it's a messy divorce where we can go back to AI and tech, though, even in the legal bit, is to track important deadlines, because AI can remind you when to file paperwork and pay legal bills and prepare for mediation and shit, because we do not need any more stress around that. Do we so tools like Calendly and notion AI can give you super smart scheduling with auto generated reminders, 


Sarah Elizabeth  22:10

and also for financial planning and budgeting and stuff. Because, you know, divorce can be fucking terrifying financially. I know AI can help you with this, but in the UK, the options are far more limited than the US. So if you are in the US, you've got things like monarch money, y, N, A, B, you need a budget and divorceify, which is specifically designed for post divorce financial planning, but if you're in the UK, those aren't as useful here. We do have some great UK friendly budgeting apps, though, that do actually link to UK banks as well. So we've got money dashboard, which is a free app that connects to your accounts and tracks your spending and helps you set financial goals. Or there's Emma, and think of lovely Emma as your financial PA, because she tracks your subscriptions, highlights wasteful spending and keeps you accountable. Might sign up for that one myself asking for a friend, I also may sign up for Snoop, which is one that apparently analyses your spending habits and gives you money saving tips based on your lifestyle, might help me out with my cost of spends. Anyway. Um, Cleo does sound fun because it's described as the chat bot style app that is said to make budgeting feel somewhat less painful, plus, it has a sense of humour, which we all need. Post divorce right AI with humour, or else money hub, which is a bit more of an advanced option that helps track investments and long term financial planning and shit. As with all of this, I'm gonna keep repeating this in this episode because of AI. Can't exactly magically fix everything, but it can help you take control of your finances by at least giving you a bit of a real time view of your money so you know exactly where you stand and help you cut some of the unnecessary costs. Because, you know, let's be honest, you might be stress spending no judgment here, or even just keeping you on track with budgeting goals so you don't feel like you're drowning, right? All I'm saying, though, is it's not a replacement for solid financial advice, especially if things like pensions and settlements or property division and shits involved. You know, if you're feeling overwhelmed, it's definitely worth talking to a financial planner who specialises in divorce. I've also got some. And actually that I may be able to get as a guest on the pod to help this. But for day to day budgeting and getting your money sorted, AI can absolutely help. 


Sarah Elizabeth  25:11

All right, moving on from the practical divorce stuff and back to the messy relationship side, because, well, AI is not just the budgets and shit. It can also help you play FBI when you shall we say, might suspect something shady is going on. Welcome to the era of AI powered infidelity investigations and fucking hell I needed this in 2012 if you've ever felt like you needed to be a detective in your own relationship, because, as we've established, gas lighters do love to make you feel fucking cray. Cray. So if you've ever felt like this, then AI is here to back you up like an online FBI agent. Remember our Brenda and Frank message analysis from earlier so AI is now advanced enough to recognize when the freaking tone changes, so it can analyse text patterns to actually detect lying, avoidance, emotional shifts, basically spotting when someone's messages start getting suspicious. There's also a whole goddamn thing about social media tracking and yes, I really did go down a whole rabbit hole researching this episode. Let me tell you. AI power tools can now alert you if your ex appears in new tagged photos locations or with certain people. Yes, it bloody can so PIM eyes, which is also UK friendly, is an AI facial recognition tool that finds public photos of someone online and then Google reverse image search, which those of us who've been on dating sites might have heard of that can also track whether the person is using the same selfies and images on dating sites, or you can use it if you're dating and checking out new potential idiots on dating sites. And oh, then there's HootSuite, which apparently does let you monitor if your name or his is popping up in social media gossip, bit like the legal tech and the financial AI stuff, though, this does come with another word of caution, another one, because some of these methods for this stuff might be a bit ethically murky. So if you're gathering evidence for divorce, just make sure you're using publicly available information only, or getting legal advice first love and to protect yourself, mysudo Su, D, O is a tool to help anonymise and protect your own online identity during messy breakups, which is important. So again, at the risk of repeating myself all of this stuff, just remember, yes, AI can help you uncover the truth and even gather evidence, but it can also lead you straight into a revenge spiral. So the key is to use it wisely, because as much as you want to expose them, the real win, the real flex here love, is you moving on and living your best goddamn life post divorce, talking of which, let's go into beauts you and the healing stuff and creating the next best chapter. Because, let's face it, that shit is what really matters here, right? 


Sarah Elizabeth  29:19

So let's start from the top of the divorce show for the immediate emotional recovery and mental health stuff, because catching a cheat as one thing, but surviving the emotional aftermath is entirely another. And this is where AI can also help with the oh my god, what just happened to my fucking life phase? You know? Did you know AI therapy is supposedly officially, oh, God, I'm thing. Who knew now? Because we all know she loves a bit of journaling. Over here, we're gonna. Start with that. So reflectly is an AI driven journaling app that tracks mood and emotional patterns. So it essentially utilises AI to help you structure and reflect upon your daily thoughts and problems, a bit like a personal mental health companion. Or there's also daylio, which is a self care bullet journal with goals. And it's also a mood diary and happiness tracker, which uses AI prompts to help you process shit, cool, huh? Or there is a whole literal AI therapy chat bot thing. So there is woebot, as in woe is me woe bot, which is available in the UK, and is an AI powered mental health chat bot that you chat away to and helps you process your emotions. There's also one called wysa, w, y, s, a which apparently is used by the NHS as a UK approved chat bot that gives CBT based emotional support, and he's said to be a personal coach, which is pretty cool, and as I say, seems to be NHS backed AI can also be used for meditation. It's used for blinking everything. So the balance app is an AI driven meditation that adapts to your needs based on your stress levels, using a huge audio library so that it's you driven. So if you're on a low stress day, it'll give you a low stress meditation. If you're on a high stress day, it gives you a stress one, abandonment. Okay, so we've done the past. We've started the healing. 


Sarah Elizabeth  31:55

Now let's really get going on your exciting future and building your dream life post divorce. Yes, it's time to talk to your next chapter, your divorce chapter, because your best life is not behind you. It's the one you're about to build, turning the plot twist of divorce into your new, happy ever after. Remember, and guess what, I can actually help you design it at all. So whether it's designing your perfect home, planning solo travel, or mapping out your revenge, glow up, I can help you plan it. Oh, it's almost like having a post divorce online life coach love so when your mind understandably is all over the freaking place, post divorce, this stuff helps you to get crystal clear on what you actually want. So tools like notion AI, which I've already mentioned, and Mind Meister help you to organize your thoughts, create goals, generally, visualise your future. And MindMeister is this whole thing that generates mind maps. So if that's how your mind works, and you need the visuals to map it all out, then it looks like it's free for three separate mind maps. So even better, when it costs jackal, I think a lot of these are free, but there's paid options. You know, like for all of them, there's a free basic version and then paid more advanced things. So then we've got dream AI, which lets you create AI generated vision boards so you can literally picture your new dream life, which might be a bit quicker than finding bits to do it on Canva, although I still love a bit of Canva and all plus, we can always go back to the og chatgpt. And I talked about this in a previous episode, that there was this Tiktok trend last year on this whole perfect day. Idea where you give chatgpt a few dates about yourself, what you love, and then get it to describe your perfect day. Tell you your perfect life, your perfect house, your perfect career, whatever the you like. And you know you ask it to tell you all sorts of details, like where you live, what the environment looks like, what your morning routine is, what you do for work, how you make money, what your finances look like, what you do for fun. You know, the list is basically endless for what you can use, chat. GPT, gonna be honest. Okay, that's the life vision bit. 


Sarah Elizabeth  34:39

What about your career and business plans, because let's be real, divorce can actually be the perfect time for a career pivot, or finally, launching that business idea that's been simmering on the back burner for years, mostly because the ex took up far too much of your time and energy. But again, this is where AI can be a new work bestie. It can help you analyse your skills. It can suggest new career paths. I've told that platforms like Teal HQ are great for career shifts and helping you explore new opportunities. And it gives you like a CV analysis feature that looks at the structure and keyword usage in your CV, so it helps to just ideas for improvement. And I think that's for UK and US. Or there's Jasper AI, which takes that business idea and basically turns it into almost like a business plan, I think of again. And as for all of these, our faith chat, GPT, it can be your career coach and help polish your CV. It can upgrade your LinkedIn profile. It can even prep you for interviews. How cool is that? 


Sarah Elizabeth  35:54

And our final area for what we can use AI for post divorce is dating. So when and if you decide to dip your toes back into the dating pool, which, let's face it, can be a bit bloody murky. AI can help you feel about the time wasters before you even match. And yes, I know your bestie does that for you and all. So this one, I was fascinated by this Rizz AI is basically an AI powered assistant that actually generates witty, flirty opening lines to get your online dating conversations going. Where was this when I was in my Bumble era? Anyway, then there's this whole AI driven dating app called Scimatch, which appears to match users based on personality insights derived from facial biometrics. Yes, you heard me facial biometrics, Holy fuck. And then offers features like virtual speed dating and personalised match insights. So you know, go for your life, love, get your face on it. Thanks, smarter, not harder and all that, because we're not going from another avoidable situationship, if we can help it. Okay, that's my list. There we go. That was a much longer than planned wrap on the AI and tech for pretty much your whole life after divorce. Why? No, AI can't live your new life for you, but it can really clear the path a bit and make moving forward a little bit easier, at least. You know, it's like having a digital cheerleader on your side. But do remember, and I know I keep saying this proviso, because it's such an important one. Yes, AI is an amazing tool, but you got to hold on to that you are still in charge. And also remember AI, like everything else is only as good as the information we feed it. It like reflects our context, our perspective, and, yes, even our biases. That doesn't mean it isn't true, but it may only be your truth, like my fake message and the context to Brenda and Frank was my context. The fake X probably would see something completely different or describe it as something different. We don't see the world as it objectively is. We see it through the lens of our own emotions, experiences, our beliefs and AI cannot separate fact from perspective unless we do so. Yes, it can be an incredible tool, but it's equally important to just have some awareness and curiosity and a willingness to question what it gives us back. You know, use it to make life easier 100% but don't let it replace your own intuition, boundaries, your own emotional intelligence, because it hasn't got that bit. So you can just start small. Try running your ex's texts with Brenda and Frank. They're my ultimate bestie now. Or use a budgeting app, or try the journaling app. The goal is not to become AI dependent. It's to work smarter, not harder. And honestly, after everything you've been through, deserve a little bit of tech powered support, love. 


Sarah Elizabeth  39:49

And while we're talking support, let's talk the March Book in the divorce book club as well. Run away husbands by Vicky Stark now the eagle ears amongst you may. May recall I did a podcast review of the book, oh my god, some time back when I just read the book myself, but she's added a few extra chapters, which include about the role covert narcissism might play. It's including the impact of this kind of divorce, on the father, adult child relationships, plus about co parenting younger kids with an ex after abandonment. So it gives us a load of tools to understand how he morphed overnight into an angry stranger, and it gives us steps for moving forward, and it's got strategies for coping. And ultimately, it says it's going to help us learn to love our lives again. So if some of that, so if you'd like to join us for that, we start on the first of March, although actually it's never too late, really, because all the past books and past chapters and everything's there for you whenever you want to dip in. So you get private podcast episodes that break down each chapter into takeaways. And there's also a private Facebook group as well for all the tea. So if you do want a supportive community of people who actually get what you're going through, and you know, going through the same shit as you are, get yourself over to the devil's book club on Patreon. The links are in the show notes. Let's make this next chapter the best goddamn one yet. So thank you for listening. I do hope you found it helpful. So it was a bit of a longer one. I did go down a rabbit hole. Soz, soz not soz, if you did love the episode, I'd love, love, love. If you could leave a review and then share a screenshot of the review to Sarah at the divorce book club.com you may even get yourself a 25 quid Amazon voucher for doing it. Everything, as always, is in the show notes down below. So I will be back in your beautiful earbuds next time. And until then, I am sending you a shit ton of love. Bye.

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